Film You Just Saw - And What You Thought About It.
  • PlopperPlopper
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    Last night I watched L.A. Confidential on UK DVD, cracking film with good performances from everybody.

    And tonight it was the turn of The Game on UK DVD, again a good film except I expected a bit more from Fincher!
  • DanBirlewDanBirlew
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    We watched Midnight in Paris and it's pretty awesome. Owen Wilson was made for Woody Allen movies, and if you're a 20's lit lover at all then it's a sheer delight. Amazing cast, amazing direction, and first "good" ending I've seen in a film in weeks.

    Another decent but less impressive art film was Beginners. Christopher Plummer just won the Golden Globe for playing Ewan McGregor's elderly father who finally decides to come out after 40 or so years of marriage following his wife's demise. McGregor's character reflects on his relationship with his father while starting a new romance with Melanie Laurent. It's not a terribly memorably film but it's not a regrettable waste of two hours, either.

    Speaking of letdown endings, The Killer Elite was a pretty hollow action film. While you can tell Statham is turning in his best acting possible while mashed between acting powerhouses like De Niro and Clive Owen, the script somehow still fails to get you completely invested in the fates of the characters. I yawned several times throughout, and wasn't tired at all when I started watching.
  • The A-Team again. Sharlto Copley is just brilliant as Murdoch. I'm still surprised at how good the film as a whole is. Liam Neeson is great as Hannibal, they've changed him from the series though, Hannibal hardly ever did anything that required effort, but in this he's actually in the fights along with everybody else.

    I've also eventually got round to watching Dead Space: Aftermath. Not as good as the first and it was a bit odd seeing it in 3D CGI. I'm still not too fond of that style. the proper anime style sections looked great though. As a prequel to Dead Space 2 it didn't really do much. A bit disappointing.

    I'm about halfway through watching Salt. It's quite good so far. I've just got to the end of the escape section when the reveal happens.
  • DanBirlewDanBirlew
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    Apollo 18 is a harrowing experience, and is frightening as hell. Be prepared to watch it with your eyes covered. Brilliant blend of stock footage and "recreated" stock footage, too.
  • Finished watching Salt. Quite a brave ending. I should have said that it was the Director's Cut I watched. I'll watch the ending of the Extended Cut just to see what the difference is but I can't see me watching the other versions any time soon. Good film though.

    I also watched Skyline a few days ago. A lot better than Battle L.A. but still quite naff. It did only have a "real" budget of under $1million and a cgi budget of 10 times that so that kinda explains the b-movie-ness of it. Some of the effects were good.

    Also good to see that the Strause Brothers, sorry, Brothers Strause can do a decent film after the naffness of Aliens vs Predator: Requiem.
  • PlopperPlopper
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    A could of nights ago I caught up with one of Eastwood's directorial works that was recommended to me by a friend. Mystic River on UK DVD.

    It was excellent yes, but a little on the simplistic side. Which is something that I've noticed about several of Eastwood's directorial pieces. Nothing wrong with that as such as you don't want deep and meaningful and takes a week to sort it out in your mine every time.

    Except for the twist of who the killer/s were that I didn't get until about 15 minutes before it was obvious everything else was signposted WELL in advance. Especially the first character being revealed as the killer when he was plainly TOO obvious.
  • I remember being disappointed with Mystic River when I first saw it. The acting was superb but I just couldn't get into the story.


    I watched Black Book today. First time I've seen it in about a year I think. It's one hell of an emotional ride that gets you drawn in. How it never made it to the final nominations in the Oscars I'll never know. Definitely one of my top 5 films.
  • JayneJayne
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    This weekend was about balancing the entertainment qi by easing back into entertaining "movies" (this in reaction to the "film" from last weekend). First up was "Tucker and Dale vs. Evil." It was awesome. Two really nice backwoods guys are just trying to fix up their vacation home when they're beset by a bunch of idiot college kids who mistake them for hillbilly ax murderers. It takes every trope beaten to death (ha ha) by movies like "Wrong Turn" and turns it on its head. Highly recommend.

    Then to completely undo any lasting artsy stigma, we saw 75% of Jackass 3-D (but without the extra D's). Forgive me for it, but I love these movies. They're below lowbrow. They're ridiculous. No plot. Disgusting and hilarious. The thing that I find particularly endearing, and why I keep coming back to these, is that there's no real malice in any of it. Unlike so many other prank-style things, all of the guys know what they're in for. They're just not sure ever if A) The stunt will work and B) if it works, how much it will hurt. As for B), they are always certain that there will definitely be a bad outcome, but they do it anyway. Who can hate on that? Not me!
  • ^ I caught myself watching Jackass Number 2 during my break at work a couple of weeks ago, when it was on TV here one night. And I figure in the 30 minutes I had to eat my dinner sitting there watching it seemed like a good idea considering I could just pick it up and drop it in that half hour. So I can fully understand. I was a big fan of the CKY films over a decade ago, so to say I didn't enjoy Jackass for similar reasons would have been a tad hypocritical.

    This week:
    The Guard on Blu Ray - Brendon Gleeson and Don Cheedle play an exceptionally unorthodox Irish policeman and a by the numbers FBI agent tracking international drug trafficking Europeans. It's exceptionally dark humored and quite funny, if you liked In Bruges you'll really enjoy it (and I say this regardless of Gleeson being in both - but it just has a similar style).

    I Am Legend also Blu Ray. I'd seen the movie before on DVD which just had the regular theatrical cut, so I rented the Blu Ray to watch the alternate version (which is the original cut, rejected by test audiences, even though it's more true to the original story). A bit conflicted after seeing it as upon reflection neither cut of the film really meshes true overall, as each have their issues. Still a decent film though.

    Despicable Me - also BD. I don't know how I overlooked this on release. It's the best twist on the "inappropriate guardian" concept done in years. It took a while to really get me interested, but as the film went on it really picked up. The voice cast was great, and it was actually hard to work out who voiced who (aside from Carell and Andrews of course). Great animated film.
  • PlopperPlopper
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    Rombie said: I Am Legend also Blu Ray. I'd seen the movie before on DVD which just had the regular theatrical cut, so I rented the Blu Ray to watch the alternate version (which is the original cut, rejected by test audiences, even though it's more true to the original story). A bit conflicted after seeing it as upon reflection neither cut of the film really meshes true overall, as each have their issues. Still a decent film though.


    That is why I think that these screening to test audiences before the film is released does not work. I think the film makers should have the courage of their convictions and go with what they want to do. I don't think I've ever seen one film that has been changed by the method!

    As for the two cuts of the film I'm the same I don't think either work 100%, but I prefer the longer cut. It's only slightly longer, but it adds more reason to what Smith's character decides to do.

    Now, over the last couple of nights I've watched two films about music / musicians, but the two films couldn't really be further apart!

    Last night I watched The Pianist on UK DVD. I know it's a brilliant film that won loads of awards and I did love the thing, but man I was sitting there through most of it thinking to myself, FIGHT BACK! But I do realise that is totally not what the film is about, that was just my mind set!

    And tonight I watched School Of Rock on UK DVD. I'm not a huge fan of Jack Black as for me he takes everything just the step or three too far nearly every scene in everything I've ever seen him in (which isn't much). But for all that, I really like this film, and was very impressed when I realised on watching the bonus features that the kids COULD play their own instruments, in fact the guitar player can play better than Black himself!
  • I'm not 100% convinced that test screenings are all bad. Sometimes the results are clearly poor and the studios choose not to listen, release the film and it's a shitfest (like with what happened to Last Action Hero and The Wolfman as well IIRC). I think it's a real double edged sword. I think in this case listening to the need to change it was probably un-nessassary as thematically the concept doesn't really change, the outcome is less bleak on the one hand but just as much on the other.
  • Double post, sorry. New viewing for the week:

    Fast & Furious and Fast Five (aka. Fast and Furious 5). Decided on the double due to the fact I caught myself watching the original Fast And The Furious on TV a few weeks back, in all it's Point Break riffing, and wondered how the series could go on for so long. Then I remembered people telling me the last one was really good and different, so I wanted to check it out - but I needed to see the other film first.

    So I caught up. Fast & Furious was very by the books and was not a surprise at all, finding an anchoring reason for the cast of the original film to get back together. The car races consisted of a lot of silly CGI like their previous versions and it was all reletively silly, but Fast Five on the other hand - while still quite silly - was actually far more entertaining and actually not as convolted overall. Changing the franchise into a heist/cops n' robbers film really played to the strength of the characters and was exceptionally enjoyable. Additionally Dwayne Johnson played to his strengths as always and was a great play off against Vin Diesel. Good casting. Never thought I'd say that.

    Finally, as I said to Jayne, when I saw Black Swan go to $1 for BD weekly rental I'd get it, and so I did. And you know what, I didn't actually mind it. The film had Aronofsky's style all over it, the casting was decent, and it was a nice self contained film. I don't think I found it as creepy or disturbing as others, although the controversial lesbian love scene could have not been included and it wouldn't have made any difference overall. Much like the rest of his work, I'll never watch it again (but unlike Requiem... this is more about not going to get anything additional out of it rather than the content), but it was worth seeing.

    Also, anyone see the extended cut of Mathew Broderick shilling Honda's ala Ferris Bueller? Kinda makes me wish on some sad level a sequel would actually happen, but then again it would probably taint the original and leave John Hughes rolling in his grave already more than he is from the below commercial. Shame.

  • JayneJayne
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    Jurassic Park on BD. I think I was first in line at the local theater when it premiere waaaay back when CG was this scary and awesome thing. All I can say is I'm ever so thankful for Stan Winston. It's not that the CG looks bad on BD. It's just not very good compared to things today (which goes without say). The models themselves hold up just fine-- the problems are evident in the matting, where there's a definite change in lighting and resolution between the digital dinos and the human actors. I found it distracting. The practical effects are what pull it back from the edge of appearing very, very dated.
  • PlopperPlopper
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    Rombie said: Also, anyone see the extended cut of Mathew Broderick shilling Honda's ala Ferris Bueller? Kinda makes me wish on some sad level a sequel would actually happen, but then again it would probably taint the original and leave John Hughes rolling in his grave already more than he is from the below commercial. Shame.


    Yep saw it the other day and thought just about the same you did Rombie. In fact I thought the Ferris Bueller from the film would probably punch the advert version of himself. If he were real!

    Jayne said:
    Jurassic Park on BD. I think I was first in line at the local theater when it premiere waaaay back when CG was this scary and awesome thing. All I can say is I'm ever so thankful for Stan Winston. It's not that the CG looks bad on BD. It's just not very good compared to things today (which goes without say). The models themselves hold up just fine-- the problems are evident in the matting, where there's a definite change in lighting and resolution between the digital dinos and the human actors. I found it distracting. The practical effects are what pull it back from the edge of appearing very, very dated.


    AH! I'm yet to see this on BD so your comments are very interesting. I've been thinking for a while now when will we see the first re-mastered CGI, surely there must be films that have both the film elements and the CGI elements separate so they could re-do them today?

    Saw The Last King Of Scotland last night on UK DVD. I wasn't sure what to expect from this as a film, I know the basic history of the base story, but didn't know where the film was going to go, either comedy, serious or a bit of both. And for me it missed at both. There were a couple of bits in it that were WAY over the top for comedy, but most of the film was too light in theme for deadly serious. Great performances though, I've always liked Forest though.
  • PlopperPlopper
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    Back again so soon!

    Watched Clash Of The Titans on UK DVD tonight. It's really not stood the test of time!

    I love the Ray Harryhausen stop motion animation. But the way it was implemented means that like the Dinos in JP the effects stick out like a very sore thumb. Some of the double exposure (maybe even more than double) shots look so low in resolution and detail it looks like 8mm footage. The rear projection shots look bad. And all of the matte work of the figures superimposed with the people looks stuttery. I hope they can do something with it if it gets a HD transfer!
  • I got the Jurassic Park BD set in Nov last year, but I just realised I never mentioned watching the first film again. There are issues, but it still holds up better than some wholly CGI films and for that I was very happy. We've talked about it before on here, but a good mixture of practical and CG effects just work so much better to give films better legs.

    The reason the film is not touched up I think will probably be discussed in the extras if other stuff I have read is to be believed. Spielburg has gone against the changing/updating films thing like Lucas does. He's even renounced the changes made to E.T. for it's 20th anniversary and supposedly the BD version coming out will have the original edition on it.

    ET Blu-Ray: It’s coming. Spielberg said he wanted to poll the audience. He asked us if there was anybody in the crowd that would be disappointed if the 2002 Special Edition was not included on the Blu, if it was only the original 1982 version. He was greeted with a roaring “No!” from the crowd and said, “Well, that settles it then.” So, he strongly implied the ET Blu-Ray will be the original theatrical cut only and not even include the gun-less, penis breath-less CGI’d ET version.

    On the ET SE: Spielberg said he let the immense criticism from parent groups after the theatrical release of ET get to him, which is what prompted the guns being taken out and the removal of the penis-breath line. He admitted that was a mistake and that he realized after the fact that changing the movie was “robbing the people of their memories of the movie.” He had a very hard time with that and said he confirmed what he told me in our interview that you won’t see any more digital tinkering in future releases of his films.


    - http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51176 (Sept. 2011)

    Given that you can't be surprised they didn't change a thing.

    Went to the cinema and saw Fincher's version of Dragon Tattoo. It's not better or worse than the other film version, it's different but good. Craig's accent probably is once again the issue but it's as noticable as the issues we've discussed earlier in Cowboy's & Aliens. Also the opening titles are well done but seemingly are out of place in the style of the rest of the film. It's supposed to be some sort of nightmare sequence but it still has no style base for the rest of the film.
  • DanBirlewDanBirlew
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    Rombie said: Craig's accent probably is once again the issue but it's as noticable as the issues we've discussed earlier in Cowboy's & Aliens.

    Seriously? What kind of accent is he trying to do in Tattoo? Isn't it set in Europe? I figure no accent required, except for maybe when they say the Swedish names.
  • JayneJayne
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    Right-- in movies, everyone who isn't from North America always speaks with a British accent, even Asians, but not Spaniards.
  • It's no accent. It's just his own voice. But everyone else has a Swedish (or so) sound to their voice, even Rooney Mara. He doesn't really try. It doesn't stand out as poorly as C&A because his accent is closer in general to those around him, but given he's playing a character who is from Sweden and not the UK... well...

    Here's a 30 sec clip of when he arrives at Salander's apt. You'll see what I mean.

  • I've only one thing to add since Black Book and that's Hitchcock's Mr & Mrs Smith. Definitely one of the weaker films of his, but it is a different type so it's no real surprise. Reasonably good.

    Rombie said: Also, anyone see the extended cut of Mathew Broderick shilling Honda's ala Ferris Bueller? Kinda makes me wish on some sad level a sequel would actually happen, but then again it would probably taint the original and leave John Hughes rolling in his grave already more than he is from the below commercial. Shame.


    Yeah, I saw the teaser and got my hopes up. Then I heard about the full length advert, saw that and thought it might actually be good if they made a sequel, but knowing what the companies are like it'd be crap.

    Jayne said: the problems are evident in the matting


    So that's the technical term for my "flatness" description! B-)
  • PlopperPlopper
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    OK, so I've not been watching films of late. Not had that much time so have been watching a fare bit of half hour episodes.

    But I did want to ask a film related question. About Netflix. I know a couple of us have it and a mate of mine has just signed up for the free month and I'm waiting for his thoughts on it as I'm thinking about it myself.

    My questions are, how often do the films get updated, how long after a film has released do they get them and how long do the films stay on the list before getting removed?

    I know they are general question that are likely to be different in territories but just an idea is all I'm after.

    Weather it be games, music or films I have never really liked the idea of streaming as I've always been a collector of things (as you may have noticed) so not actually having the film you've just watched doesn't really appeal to me, but I realise that at some point in the near future disc based distribution for most things will stop. Not looking forward to that to tell the truth.

    That can be another film question to go a bit off topic. Which way would everybody prefer? Disc or download/stream?
  • I watched Attack the Block this morning and I still don't know what to really think of it. It wasn't as good as I thought it would be, but I was only going by hearsay (no, not the naff pop band!). After watching it I read the trivia on imdb and my respect for it grew after finding out how they cast it and that they used practical effects as much as possible.

    It's got me intrigued enough to watch the extras in future which is something I rarely do now (I got the 2 disc version). I'll also probably watch the film itself again and pay more attention to the effects.

    I've yet to try the Netflix thing on the 360 but I doubt I'd actually pay for it as I've still got loads here to watch already!

    I'd always go for a disc based product over streaming/downloading. What happens if you pay for something then your internet goes off or the company decides not to allow that product anymore? You've paid for it, it should be yours. But that's probably another topic all to itself. Although that argument doesn't really apply to subscription based things so it wouldn't apply to Netflix.
  • DanBirlewDanBirlew
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    Couple noteworthy films to add:

    Drive: We thoroughly enjoyed this 80's style, Michael Mann-inspired crime drama in which a part-time stunt driver/part-time getaway driver (Ryan Gosling) who's about to become a legit race car driver falls for a married mother (Carey Mulligan) and decides to help her recently paroled convict husband pull off a heist to pay off outstanding debts. It's more style than substance at times, but it is a fun movie to watch and even Gosling's usual affected understatedness doesn't put you off the character. The ending isn't the strongest, but it's time spent you won't regret.

    What's Your Number?: Avoid like the plague. We watched the first 15 to 20 minutes of this and pulled it out. A comedy of any caliber, even a romantic one, needs to make a big splash of some kind at the beginning in order to maintain interest. We found this so insipid, unfunny and slow moving that we decided we didn't have time to waste on it.

    Killing Bono: This was a fairly interesting look into the formation of U2 and the band that languished in their shadow, Shook Up. Ben Barnes is funny as the front man of Shook Up, who makes one bad decision after another on behalf of both his band and his brother, who was offered a spot in U2 by Bono but Barnes refused on his behalf and kept the information from him for 10 years. Rock biopic lovers will appreciate.

    Just got a copy of the new The Thing, and will watch it this weekend, work willing.
  • DanBirlewDanBirlew
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    Saw another film last night, This Means War featuring Reese Witherspoon, Chris Pine and Tom Hardy. This was a fun and cute romantic action comedy (I guess) where partner CIA agents (they have partners?) decide to compete over the same woman. The problem with this movie, I think, is that you sit through most of it wondering "All this over Reese Witherspoon? Not likely." And no insult to Reese, it's just that the premise itself is pretty unbelievable. The action is brief although extremely brutal, and there are some cut-aways in the middle of fight scenes I find annoying. Perhaps it was a preview version of the film we were watching and not the final cut, but there were also some bad edits, I felt, where the film cuts to the reverse angle while someone's talking, which I've always felt was rude unless the other actor's reaction is crucial. And here, it's not. However for those who don't like Valentine's Day or maybe for couples on a first date, this little marketing gimmick should make for a good date movie.
  • PlopperPlopper
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    Just watched The Chaser on UK DVD. A Korean horror/thriller in a sort of Giallo style which actually sort of reminded me of the film Giallo. It got a bit bogged down in places with too much about the politics of the Korean police force. But was a nicely paced story with a good if sad ending.
  • vincent said:

    I watched Attack the Block this morning and I still don't know what to really think of it. It wasn't as good as I thought it would be, but I was only going by hearsay (no, not the naff pop band!). After watching it I read the trivia on imdb and my respect for it grew after finding out how they cast it and that they used practical effects as much as possible.

    It's got me intrigued enough to watch the extras in future which is something I rarely do now (I got the 2 disc version). I'll also probably watch the film itself again and pay more attention to the effects.



    I'd been meaning to check the trivia out on the film because I'd forgotten after the 24 hour excess I saw it showcased in. So I just did... But one extra bit I found out recently came from someone who worked on it.

    I was talking to a co-worker of mine who's flatmate is working on The Hobbit, and the guy who did some of the creature movement work in Attack The Block is working on it and was at their flat when I visited a while ago. When we were talking about the film I said I'd really liked the design of the aliens. He mentioned the design of them is based on the cabinet for Space Invaders. Sure enough I looked and it totally is. I thought the design was totally original, but it turned out it wasn't. I never put the two together at all :p

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    @DanBirlew - I'd suspect with the release being close here in NZ (it arrives here and in Australia on Tuesday the 14th for obvious reason) that you saw a finished cut. My thoughts are it's just McG being his usual crappy self. :p
  • PlopperPlopper
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    Watched Team America on UK DVD tonight. This is the second or third time for me to see this film and I still really can't decide if it's comedy genius that I just don't get, or it just an average comedy? I love the miniature sets sets and could watch them all day, but the action going on in them just annoys me, especially the movement of the puppets and the way they walk. I know they have done it to be even more comedic, but it just annoys!
  • PlopperPlopper
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    Nice, not much on here, but free films and TV series.

    http://www.crackle.com/

    Run by Sony.
  • PlopperPlopper
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    I watched Beyond Re-Animator on UK DVD tonight. Nice to see Yuzna and the crew still on top form after all these years, but I must have been sleeping in the intervening years as I didn't even know, or didn't realise that I have not seen Re-Animator 2! OR Bride Of Re-Animator for that matter! Call myself a horror fan???
  • PlopperPlopper
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    Tonight watched The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning on UK DVD. Not one of my favourite film ever I don't think!
  • DanBirlewDanBirlew
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    We watched The Thing 2011 version on DVD, Friday night. The critical response on this one overall was not good, but in watching it I feel like they missed the point entirely. The film, in my opinion, goes to great lengths to make itself exactly like, and in some cases no better or worse than, a Carpenter 80's flick. There is even an anti-Feminist tension between the lead (some cute girl from a lot of films, but I forget her name) and the head Norwegian scientist just to smack home how 80's this film is. If a film were released shortly before John Carpenter's The Thing, this would definitely be it. I feel like it was a good move to make the lead a female, because how are you ever going to come up with a leading character that was as good in this situation as Big Boss/Snake Pliskin himself, Kurt Russell? And I was glad to see a lot of the shots being filmed the same, lit the same. The movie goes to great lengths to recreate and explain the "crime scene" we see at the beginning of the Carpenter flick.

    However most of the creature effects they originally shot have been replaced with CG, all because the director didn't think they looked good in post. CG would definitely NOT be in an 80's prequel, and that's where I feel like the film dropped the ball a little bit. Especially after I retweeted stories and blog posts about how the effects were all going to be creature animatronics just like the original, which led me to believe they were on a better path to recreating 80's horror. If that was a plan at one point, they really should have stuck with it. I was honestly intrigued to see what they could do with animatronics nowadays, to see if the tech has come any distance in the last thirty years. I wouldn't have minded a "little" CG here and there just to clean up. But this is a full on effects showcase through some scenes, and I also feel like we see The Things way too often. The film is also missing the over-the-top paranoia that the original brought on so nicely, in stages of dialog. Here, it's like the lead figures out everything from one peep through a microscope and suddenly has everyone standing on opposite sides of the room; there's no suspenseful buildup of distrust and animosity, which the original did so well.

    So is it good or bad? It's worth a view I guess, especially if you're a fan of the original like me. I was skeptical, given exactly how much I love the original, but I can see some definite effort through the production and music score to capture the essence of the original. And it's a frightening experience, certainly; I cringed during all the scenes where actors were leaning over Thing carcasses, expecting the bodies to do something horrible at any second, only to have the scene draw out with the actors continuing to lean. Frankly, it's good stuff in its own right, and it also tries to pay due homage to the original. So it's good, but only marginally. I would probably score it a solid 67% out of 100%, which is a good deal higher than Rotten Tomatoes.
  • JayneJayne
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    @Plopper : On the issue of Netflix...

    For the most part, we use it to watch TV series and hard-to-find or niche films that we wouldn't necessarily want to own but are curious to see. They have a solid library of TV, including cancelled-too-soon stuff, like "Daybreak" and update their catalog roughly commensurate with the hard copy release (i.e. "Bones" season 6 was available for streaming the same day the DVD set was released for sale). For me, it's great because I'd rather spend $8 ot $10 (or whatever it is now) a month for unlimited viewing of all kinds of things than drop $40 on a DVD collection of one season of a TV series that interested me enough to watch but if not enough to love.

    The physical copy queue thing works out pretty well. I'm not sure exactly how it goes, but you put films in the order you want to see them, and as the disk become available, it's shipped to you. We've never really waited long for a new release, even BD copies.

    Overall, Netflix makes financial sense for us and gives us an opportunity to see things we probably wouldn't have sought out, like "Tucker and Dale Vs. Evil" or "Girl 27" or any number of Asian horror movies.

    If we really like the film or series, we know that it's worth the purchase price, or we wait till its on sale and pick it up then. For us, few things are more annoying than purchasing a film before we've seen it, only to discover it was unpleasant. Netflix is like our big audition to see which productions are worthy of addition to the collection.

  • PlopperPlopper
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    Thanx for the info Jayne.

    DanBirlew said: I was honestly intrigued to see what they could do with animatronics nowadays, to see if the tech has come any distance in the last thirty years. I wouldn't have minded a "little" CG here and there just to clean up.


    I know it's not the same effects laden epic that some films are Dan but the film I watched tonight would go a long way to showing you what modern Animatronics look like, well 2006 ones any way.

    I watched The Lady In The Water on UK BD. And the creature effects were that well done I thought that they WERE CGI before watching the extras they were that seamlessly done for in camera effects.

    Great film too, well for me at least, I know it didn't do too well critically but I love the way Night goes about his business.
  • DanBirlewDanBirlew
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    @Plopper That grass wolf monster wasn't CGI in Lady in the Water? That's amazing. Now I want to watch it again! :D
  • PlopperPlopper
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    DanBirlew said:
    @Plopper That grass wolf monster wasn't CGI in Lady in the Water? That's amazing. Now I want to watch it again!


    Nope the wolf and the tree creatures were all in camera effects, the dog being several different machines that could each do different things and the tree creatures were men is suits. In fact the only thing they showed as CGI in the extras was the huge Eagle!
  • PlopperPlopper
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    Last night I watched Four Flies On Gray Velvet on UK BD. From 1971 to now this is the first time it's been officially released for home sale, there have been several bootlegs of differing standard but this is the first studio release. It has it's problems but the fact that it has at long last had a release is enough for me for now.
  • Watched Rise of The Planet of the Apes tonight on BluRay. Had expected a really poor film (and had in fact when Wha? when it was first announced) but ended being one of the best I've seen in recent memory. Big surprise.

    Shame it missed out on the Oscar. I haven't seen Hugo, but it's visual effects have got to be exceptionally madly great because the work in Apes was just spectacular. I suspect the academy has issue with the motion capture because it's hard to say where effects start and end under that.
  • JayneJayne
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    Nah, the academy has problems with action films and sci-fi. It's not serious filmmaking to them. LOTR doesn't count because it's a literary adaptation, and it was filmed in NZ and had a foreign director and a cast of "actors" not "movie stars" AND Sir Ian McKellan is very vocal gay rights, so a nod for LOTR is a nod for inclusiveness. But LOTR did win best effects due in large part to Gollum, who is the poster child/mutant hobbit of motion capture.
  • I don't fully I don't fully agree sorry. I mean you're right mostly, it's hardly ever you will see action and sci-fi BUT the academy members will enter or award films in any genre of that type more so when the pressure of not doing so is so big. Thats why Avatar got many nods (and did win with the Visual Effects one, even if it was never ever going to win best film). And that's also why LOTR got in to bigger awards after basically being snubbed for two years on anything but technical visual acchivements (and even then those were limited nods). I think outside pressure does a lot more now than it used to.

    I'm more convinced that due to the lack of wanting to put a Pixar film anywhere near the best film catagory for so long, that there would be people dragging their heels over what is considered suitable awards for VFX (and even acting nods) with a future in more motion capture work takes place. Hell Tintin didn't get a nod and it would be up there with VFX work in the last 12 months. Nothing. Andy Serkis is great but I don't think we'll probably ever see him nominated for say a best actor award or anything either.

    The panel looks for the basic art of everything which is where the general blockbuster snub goes. I think a large number still think of the visual effects thing as people doing all computers and the actors on the motion capture do little. Or some think the complete opposite and thus why would you award so much on visual effects. I dunno, I just think it's going to be a while before that smooths out because there is no consistant viewpoint on this by academy members.

    I could start a whole new topic about this years Oscars (or almost any) and how I don't like them, but the only one other thing I have to say about this years is... Gary Oldman didn't win, fine I can deal with that okay, but I can't even believe that was his first nomination! Really? Come on. Geez.
  • Rombie said: I could start a whole new topic about this years Oscars (or almost any) and how I don't like them, but the only one other thing I have to say about this years is... Gary Oldman didn't win, fine I can deal with that okay, but I can't even believe that was his first nomination! Really? Come on. Geez.


    What?! That was his first nomination? That's unbelievable.

    He should have had nominations for Hannibal, JFK and maybe even Sid and Nancy.

    He's such a versatile and brilliant actor it's hard to believe he's been snubbed for so long.
  • PlopperPlopper
    Moderator
    And Leon! I never ever take any notice of the Oscars, full stop. Didn't even know they had been this time around!!!
  • vincentvincent
    Member
    Aye, he was brilliant in Leon.

    I'm not too fond of the International Version, seems to plod on a bit, but the original UK release is fantastic. Jean Reno and Natalie Portman are great, but Gary steals the show as usual.
  • PlopperPlopper
    Moderator
    A bit of catch up today!

    Forgot to mention the other night I watched Arriatti on UK DVD after a friend loaned it to me, I was going to wait and hold out until I got the BD, but it was there and I just couldn't wait any longer. Absolutely beautiful is about the only thing I can say about the looks even if the DVD did suffer from a bit too much compression artifacting. Just a perfectly lovely film all round.

    Last night I watched The Crazies on UK DVD. And I really enjoyed it as Dan and others I think said I would. In fact I think it's the first Uncle George film that I have actually preferred the re-make! Not a perfect film, but far better than most action horror types these days.

    And tonight Alien Vs. Predator 2: Requiem on UK DVD. Not a good film I thought, by the numbers small town invasion fodder with nothing new. And again all the action sequences were that speedily cut and shaky you couldn't really make out what was going on in any of the good bits!
  • RombieRombie
    Member
    I still maintain that if AVP2 didn't use the two iconic aliens as it's basis and instead was just a monster movie it would be one of the better ones in recent memory. Shame it the thing that just killed both franchises more or less.

    At least Ridley Scott looks to be putting the universe back on track somewhat even if his new film isn't entirely an Alien one.

    Thanks for reminding me about The Crazies... I've had the DVD on the shelf for months and not yet watched it. Might be something for later this week.

    And yeah, I'm was not kidding. It was indeed Oldman's first Oscar nod.
  • vincentvincent
    Member
    Rombie said: At least Ridley Scott looks to be putting the universe back on track somewhat even if his new film isn't entirely an Alien one.

    Have you seen this yet?



    I want this movie NOW!!
  • DanBirlewDanBirlew
    Administrator
    Wow, what an interesting scene! I'm a closet TED fan and spend a lot of time each year watching keynote presentations and whatnot. Granted, none of their presenters are glory mongers (not in an outspoken fashion, anyhow). The idea that androids and aliens are going to be unleashed upon humanity starting with a speech at a TED conference is quite clever. Really looking forward to Prometheus!
  • RombieRombie
    Member
    I had. It's actually not from the movie apparently, just shot for the viral marketing (and probably bonus materials or maybe background content in the film) by Ridley Scott's son Luke.

    Not too suprising because the actual film takes place sometime after 2073 (50+ years after that video is supposed to take place), and a few years before the events in Alien (which is supposed to be around 2122). But man given how interesting and exciting that is alone, I can't wait to see what his Dad is up to with the film :D

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  • PlopperPlopper
    Moderator
    Last night I watched Resident Evil on UK BD. I've bought all 4 of the films on BD as they were cheap and I want them for the collection.

    To me the first one is by far the best in the series, but is far from perfect. If only Alice had been a semi normal person like she is in the first film the series would have been a whole lot better for me.
  • PlopperPlopper
    Moderator
    Did the deed with Resident Evil: Apocalypse on UK BD tonight. For me it's a very close second to the original one as far as liking it goes, now it's all down hill for the next two!
  • vincentvincent
    Member
    We watched The Da Vinci Code lst night as it was on the telly. I wasn't bothered about it until I saw Reno, Molina and McKellen on the tv guide for it.

    Disappointing film overall but McKellen was fantastic as usual. If I do see it again it'll just be for his scenes.

    I also caught the last half hour of Gremlins 2 as that was on just before. After 22 years it's still great.

    A few days ago we watched Monsters vs Aliens that we recorded over christmas. That was a fun little film.

    Rombie said:
    I had. It's actually not from the movie apparently, just shot for the viral marketing (and probably bonus materials or maybe background content in the film) by Ridley Scott's son Luke.

    I didn't realise it was Scott Jnr that directed it. Great stuff.

    I knew it wasn't going to be in the film as it's set much earlier but I'd heard it was only 10 years. Still, it's a very interesting setup for the film. I thought Pearce was brilliant as Weyland.

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