Silent Hill Spit Take
  • http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Hill-Playstation/dp/B00001XDUB/ref=sr_1_5?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1329945689&sr=1-5

    $277.50??!!!!

    Good thing I remembered to hold onto my old one.

    Of course, if it's a used SH, you can get it for as cheap as $19.99, for a savings of, oh, about $257 or so.
  • I think I got mine for £10 used around 2002.

    I've seen it go for ridiculous amounts since then, but that price is just astronomically stupid.
  • Just curious: is the UK version of Silent Hill different from the US version (more censorship crap, a subject you and Plopper have touched on many times before)?
  • I think the only differences we found in any version was that it's got the claw monsters in the school instead of the kids with knives like the demo had, but as far as we can tell the kids version wasn't even released in Japan.

    I may be wrong but @Plopper has a better memory than me so he'll be able to chime in and correct me. We did speak about it a length in emails and possibly on here when we emigrated from the old forum (not Dan's old forum, the one seperate from years ago that was black and red, can't remember the name now).
  • DanBirlewDanBirlew
    Administrator
    @vincent Dark Legacy, I believe. ;)
  • That's the one! I thought it began with a D, but other than that I just got the name of another forum in my head so I wasn't sure.

    I knew my memory was crap :))
  • PlopperPlopper
    Moderator
    All bar the first US retail version (and all subsequent US re-releases as far as I can tell) have the claw monsters. Demo versions are quite another thing, as far as I know all but the very last of the demos to be released on cover discs for magazines had the child knife welding to the MAX.

    Apart from that I've heard of (but never seen) an extra gory version of Dr. Kaufman killing the enemy at the pool hall.

    I've just ran though the first nightmare scenes that introduce the game for screen captures of the enemy as whatever appears there also appears in the school!

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    All have been taken from the original discs with ePSXe (whatever that mite be!!!).
  • I knew you'd be the person to clarify the differences.

    Now I need to try and remember all that again. And try and get the US SH1 for the PS1 sometime which will probably be impossible for me ;)

    Plopper said: Apart from that I've heard of (but never seen) an extra gory version of Dr. Kaufman killing the enemy at the pool hall.

    Have you played through all the different versions to that point? Or is that something for a rainy day. If you're not working too much!
  • The pool hall enemy kill is one of the mumbler "bear" monsters in all versions as I recall, because they turn up in the US game in the sewer section anyway and that scene takes place after. I don't think I have ever seen any differences in the actual scene from anywhere.

    The PAL version is a very shoddy port, which is probably the main reason it's been very problematic to put as a digital download on the PSN. Aside from minor things (like the background of the title screen missing) it suffers from weird speed issues from conversion from NTSC to PAL, weird masking borders (which is noticable on newer TV's), and some sound clipping issues probably also releated to the aformentioned speed changes.
  • PlopperPlopper
    Moderator
    Rombie said: The pool hall enemy kill is one of the mumbler "bear" monsters in all versions as I recall, because they turn up in the US game in the sewer section anyway and that scene takes place after. I don't think I have ever seen any differences in the actual scene from anywhere.

    The PAL version is a very shoddy port, which is probably the main reason it's been very problematic to put as a digital download on the PSN. Aside from minor things (like the background of the title screen missing) it suffers from weird speed issues from conversion from NTSC to PAL, weird masking borders (which is noticable on newer TV's), and some sound clipping issues probably also releated to the aformentioned speed changes.


    As I said I'd heard of but never seen it, also remember something about the Cybil getting clonked on the head scene being more graphic, but again never seen it myself!

    As for the port from NTSC to PAL, most of those problems can be levelled at most PAL games that were not programmed in PAL. Later games with 60hz modes were better, but almost all games that I played at the time on the PS1 were slow, choppy and squashed because nobody bothered to convert them right.

    Vince, yes I have played both the UK and US versions all the way through, but not the Asian ones.

  • Very true regarding the PAL issues, however Konami generally did better PS1 PAL ports than most, but the issue stems from who did the PAL conversion work. A large number of the development teams for the company actually did PAL versions in house (this is true for Castlevania SOTN and Metal Gear Solid who's own dev teams worked on the PAL editions in multiple languages) but my understanding is that Silent Hill was outsourced or done by a European company for Konami which led to it's longer delay in PAL areas. Even with some others I can think of, it still stands as my memory serves as one of the worst PAL ports of the PlayStation One format.
  • RombieRombie
    Member
    Double post, but Silent Hill is free on the PSN for Plus members in both the US and PAL areas this week. A better deal in the US of course given the quality of the PAL version. People are speculating this is a somewhat lame attempt to make up for the crappy HD title. :p
  • PlopperPlopper
    Moderator
    Don't think it's going to make any difference now! Any would be Silent Hill fan that's played the HD collection will NOT be staying around for Downpour I reckon!

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